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Re: Aircraft Center | pui2canvas parser (devel-list follow-u

... also to most of the dialogs, and their embedded Nasal sections, it is processing. http://wiki.flightgear.org/images/8/83/Shuttle-dps-dialog-via-pui2canvas.png
by Hooray
Tue Jun 21, 2016 4:08 pm
 
Forum: Canvas
Topic: Aircraft Center | pui2canvas parser (devel-list follow-up)
Replies: 32
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Re: Aircraft Center | pui2canvas parser (devel-list follow-u

... layouts - e.g. here's the timeofday.xml dialog (bindings are actually working as expected): http://wiki.flightgear.org/images/e/ee/Time-dialog-via-pui2canvas.png Here's the earthview dialog: http://wiki.flightgear.org/images/8/84/Earthview-dialog-via-pui2canvas.png Note that it will add labels ...
by Hooray
Sun Jun 19, 2016 8:48 pm
 
Forum: Canvas
Topic: Aircraft Center | pui2canvas parser (devel-list follow-up)
Replies: 32
Views: 9216

Re: Aircraft Center | pui2canvas parser (devel-list follow-u

... - i.e. no Qt code whatsoever. For the time being, and given the recent commit logs, the most direct option to actually rip out PUI entirely is the pui2canvas approach (parsing PUI/XML and translating it to Canvas calls) - but that approach is not specific to the Canvas system, it could be just ...
by Hooray
Sun Jun 19, 2016 6:53 pm
 
Forum: Canvas
Topic: Aircraft Center | pui2canvas parser (devel-list follow-up)
Replies: 32
Views: 9216

Re: Aircraft Center | pui2canvas parser (devel-list follow-u

Frankly, as long as there is not a 1:1 mapping between the old system and the new UI system (without breaking existing features like tutorials, checklists and aircraft specific dialogs etc), QML (or whatever else you think is cool) is unlikely to be even remotely relevant in the context of FlightGe...
by bugman
Sun Jun 19, 2016 6:32 pm
 
Forum: Canvas
Topic: Aircraft Center | pui2canvas parser (devel-list follow-up)
Replies: 32
Views: 9216

Re: Aircraft Center | pui2canvas parser (devel-list follow-u

... optional dependencies at all ? It would be pointless (and even more redundant) to map something like QML to Canvas - the sole benefit of the pui2canvas approach is that there's a huge repository of existing resources, whereas the Qt UI is just about to evolve, while being intended to remain ...
by Hooray
Sun Jun 19, 2016 6:19 pm
 
Forum: Canvas
Topic: Aircraft Center | pui2canvas parser (devel-list follow-up)
Replies: 32
Views: 9216

Re: Aircraft Center | pui2canvas parser (devel-list follow-u

... old XML system. However the new UI will not be constrained by a technology abandoned 10 years ago. What this means is that for the Canvas GUI, the pui2canvas parser will only be one part of the technology stack required. You might also need qml2canvas, as well as new code to replicate the far more ...
by bugman
Sun Jun 19, 2016 5:56 pm
 
Forum: Canvas
Topic: Aircraft Center | pui2canvas parser (devel-list follow-up)
Replies: 32
Views: 9216

Re: Aircraft Center | pui2canvas parser (devel-list follow-u

... the parser to support those, will mean that all other dialogs (including those outside fgdata/fgaddon) would benefit from that. Thus, while the pui2canvas approach is not intended to "compete" with other UI efforts - any other UI effort not using the parser-approach is sooner or later ...
by Hooray
Sun Jun 19, 2016 9:14 am
 
Forum: Canvas
Topic: Aircraft Center | pui2canvas parser (devel-list follow-up)
Replies: 32
Views: 9216

Re: Aircraft Center | pui2canvas parser (devel-list follow-u

Fully replacing PUI with pure CUI is a mammoth task. Well, perhaps one more comment to that... As said earlier, any UI talks to FG in terms of setting properties, calling FGcommands and Nasal scripts. Pretty much anyone who has done a glass cockpit for FG has solved the task. In fact, the Shuttle U...
by Thorsten
Sat Jun 18, 2016 11:18 am
 
Forum: Canvas
Topic: Aircraft Center | pui2canvas parser (devel-list follow-up)
Replies: 32
Views: 9216

Re: Aircraft Center | pui2canvas parser (devel-list follow-u

... http://wiki.flightgear.org/images/f/f4/Reset-reinit-control-panel.png In other words, pui2canvas can be solely implemented in fgdata space, and it can even remove PUI at runtime ...
by Hooray
Sat Jun 18, 2016 9:13 am
 
Forum: Canvas
Topic: Aircraft Center | pui2canvas parser (devel-list follow-up)
Replies: 32
Views: 9216

Re: Aircraft Center | pui2canvas parser (devel-list follow-u

... looks like a pool of questions that could be easily answered by referring to those topics, or even just by reviewing the pointers collected in the pui2canvas parser article; there really are too many conceptual issues in your posting currently. Likewise, I am not asking you, or Thorsten, to communicate ...
by Hooray
Sat Jun 18, 2016 9:01 am
 
Forum: Canvas
Topic: Aircraft Center | pui2canvas parser (devel-list follow-up)
Replies: 32
Views: 9216

Re: Aircraft Center | pui2canvas parser (devel-list follow-u

Just briefly, given that we can parse pui/XML to create dialogs, we can just as well create a fully functional menubar to call the corresponding show-dialog commands, which is not really complicated to do... (ignore the dialog decoration, I added that for better debugging) After all, a menubar is ju...
by Hooray
Fri Jun 17, 2016 3:46 pm
 
Forum: Canvas
Topic: Aircraft Center | pui2canvas parser (devel-list follow-up)
Replies: 32
Views: 9216

Re: Aircraft Center | pui2canvas parser (devel-list follow-u

But without implementing other parts, without PUI (or QUI) you cannot get to the dialogs. Right... What other parts? Do you honesty think that it's difficult to open canvas windows from Nasal? Do you really believe we need PUI or Qt for a job which is a one-liner? Fully replacing PUI with pure CUI ...
by Thorsten
Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:51 pm
 
Forum: Canvas
Topic: Aircraft Center | pui2canvas parser (devel-list follow-up)
Replies: 32
Views: 9216

Re: Aircraft Center | pui2canvas parser (devel-list follow-u

... The core development to replace this will be the Qt5 GUI (QUI). ⋅  The CUI as you envisage it will not replace the current PUI. Pui2canvas is only one part. But without implementing other parts, without PUI (or QUI) you cannot get to the dialogs. ⋅  The CUI as Thorsten ...
by bugman
Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:40 am
 
Forum: Canvas
Topic: Aircraft Center | pui2canvas parser (devel-list follow-up)
Replies: 32
Views: 9216

Re: Aircraft Center | pui2canvas parser (devel-list follow-u

... I have yet to hear any counter arguments. If someone seriously believes the Qt plan for FG can be derailed or endangered by a minimalistic pui2canvas parser, then this prompts the question how solid the Qt approach is in the first place. Personally, I don't think it is that fragile.
by Thorsten
Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:29 am
 
Forum: Canvas
Topic: Aircraft Center | pui2canvas parser (devel-list follow-up)
Replies: 32
Views: 9216

Re: Aircraft Center | pui2canvas parser (devel-list follow-u

the question has been posed, I think it is a fair question. What is stopping anyone from finishing the CUI? No competition, PUI is done, so move forward already.
I'm all for discussion, but has it really got us anywhere besides circular arguments and unsubstantiated statements thus far?
by jaxsin
Thu Jun 16, 2016 10:01 pm
 
Forum: Canvas
Topic: Aircraft Center | pui2canvas parser (devel-list follow-up)
Replies: 32
Views: 9216
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